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  Conditions of Watchtower Baptism

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i understand that there are 80 to 100 questions that would-be witnesses must answer correctly before they can be considered eligible for "christian baptism".

  however i have noticed that none of the questions relate to the 607destruction, the 1914 invisible presence and enthronement, or even the 1919 appointment of the faithful slave.. now some may feel my question is ridiculous, but bear with me.. will jehovah's witnesses baptize someone who answers all 100 questions satisfactorily, but rejects 607, 1914 and 1919 and the events the watchtower associates with these dates if they agree not to express their rejection to others?.

  your thoughts....

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  Sea Breeze

  Excellent questions that are missing Listener.

  Here's more questions the WT would ask if they were really trying to inform people of what they were getting into:

  1. Do you understand that JW's do not preach the ministry of reconciliation that God gave

  to believers in 2 Cor. 5: 18 ? Why?

  2. Do you understand that the ministry of reconciliation ended in the early part of the 20th century after Jesus picked the JW's as his sole "mouthpiece"?

  3. Do you understand that God is not your father, only your potential father. Jesus is not your Mediator, and that you are not justified before God as those brothers are who were lucky enough to be born prior to 1914?
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  Knocking on schoolmates doors

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left the jw's shortly after i graduated high school.

  but when i was still at home i'd get dragged into door to door every saturday morning without fail unless it was pissing rain.

  i can remember always being anxious to know what territory my group was assigned.

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  Sea Breeze

  All painfully familiar. Kids suffer the most indignities as JW's. I think that is by design.
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  Useless Majors

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was passing through a very liberal college town recently during rush hour.

  so, i decided to stop for some refreshment at a fine-looking establishment and wait for traffic to die down.

  a young waitress waited on me who probably could have been stevie nicks twin when she was young.

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  Sea Breeze

  I guess the word "useless" is a somewhat harsh and subjective term, although the term: "useless college degres" yields lists from many reputable sources. Studying anything will yield some benefit for sure. It is certainly better than sitting around doing nothing. Earnings potential may be a better gauge for some.
  
  

  Worst-paying college majors

  Top ten by median salary within five years of graduation

  Family and Consumer Sciences

  $32K

  General Social Sciences

  $34K

  Performing Arts

  $34K

  Social Services

  $35K

  Anthropology

  $36K

  Early Childhood Education

  $36K

  Theology and Religion

  $36.6K

  Psychology

  $37K

  Liberal Arts

  $37.4K

  Foreign Language

  $38K

  English Language

  $38K

  Miscellaneous Biological Science

  $38K

  Leisure and Hospitality

  $38K

  Fine Arts

  $38K

  Note: Five majors tied for 10th place. Includes full-time U.S. workers with a bachelor's degree.Source: Federal Reserve Bank of New York. As of Feb. 9, 2022.

  
  

  For comparison’s sake, a minimum wage job that pays $15 per-hour works out to $31,200 in yearly wages, if you were to work 40 hours every week. That pay is nearly on par with what you’d earn for a college major in family and consumer sciences — a life-skills college degree that ranks the worst in terms of median pay within five years of graduation, with yearly wages of $32,000.
  
  Four majors — family and consumer sciences, the performing arts, general social sciences and social services — actually pay less than the median salary of $35,805 for full-time workers in the U.S., regardless of education, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.

  
  

  Education Smart . org lists Anthropology And Archeology, Art history, Ethnic and civilization studies & Psychology as among their top 20 Most Useless College Degrees.
  
  
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  Dumb 'experiences' you were told as a JW

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this one stands out in my mind.

  it was reported that 'a brother', unnamed of course, was out in field service and was set upon by a pack of vicious dogs.

  he made it back to the car and was injured quite badly with his arms, hands and leg bleeding heavily.

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  Sea Breeze

  JW Urban Legend:

  A JW was at a large beautiful house and got into a heated argument with the HH. As he walked away, the brother told the HH that one day he would live in that big house of his after Armageddon.

  Sometime later, while this brother was working at an Assembly in food service, someone tapped him on the shoulder and it was the man whom he had the argument with. The man was grinning ear to ear and said that if he still wanted to live in his house, he would need to buy it ...because he had just gotten baptized.
  
  My ending:

  They then hugged each other and shared a Shasta Lemon-lime soda to commemorate the occasion.
  
  
  
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  Starting September 01, 2022, the Angels will help in the ministry work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  2022 governing body update # 6. what exciting news david splane has for all jehovah's witnesses ( who for the last three years were spared the house-to-house preaching work ) '' that we'll return to the ministry september 01, 2022. just in time for our world wide campaign to start bible studies.

  and, i'm sure the angels are excited too, because it will give them opportunities to help us with our ministry.''.

  not only will the witnesses be rusty in their return to the field ministry, the angels in heaven have been sitting idle while the pandemic stopped the house-to-house ministry.

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  Sea Breeze

  When you are appointed over all the "belongings" of God, I guess its not enough to just boss people around, you get to tell the angels what to do as well. Poor angels, no more sleeping in on Saturday mornings.
  
  
  
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  Useless Majors

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was passing through a very liberal college town recently during rush hour.

  so, i decided to stop for some refreshment at a fine-looking establishment and wait for traffic to die down.

  a young waitress waited on me who probably could have been stevie nicks twin when she was young.

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  Sea Breeze

  I was passing through a very liberal college town recently during rush hour. So, I decided to stop for some refreshment at a fine-looking establishment and wait for traffic to die down. A young waitress waited on me who probably could have been Stevie Nicks twin when she was young. I couldn't help but notice the fine fishing tackle that adorned her ears, eyebrow and nose.
  
  Being a naturally inquisitive person I asked her if she was a student and she answered in the affirmative. Wondering what kinds of things the Millennials are studying these days prompted me to ask what she was majoring in with her studies. She answered Pre-historic Agriculture.

  Fascinated, I asked what were the inhabitants of Chaco Canyon dining on 1200 years ago. She said, "maize". The exchange reminded me of the Sociology Major that I had chosen some 25 years ago as I exited the WT. I thought it might shed some light on the whole WT experience that generations of my family had been involved it. It didn't, except to reveal that social engineers believe that people can be socialized into believing/doing just about anything.

  Sea Breeze Jr. will be studying engineering next year at university.

  What is the most "useless" major you have heard of?
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  Who’s gonna mow your grass

  by solomon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixc6aqrozq.

  what most jehovah’s witnesses don’t realize about their version of the new system is who’s gonna mow the grass?.

  after the system is destroyed who’s gonna make that nail your pounding with a hammer?

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  Sea Breeze

  One elder told our book study that in the new world our primary duty would be to tame the animals..... even fish. He actually said that no doubt we would be provided boats to go out into the water and tame the fish.
  
  He didn't say who would be building the boats nor did he mention any of the fish taming techniques that would be employed.

  New World WT article :

  These fine brothers had a wonderful time taming fish in place of field service. They took seriously the words of the Slave just as they would the "voice of God" in the old system and now have this great never-to-be-repeated assignment in the New System. What a wonderful provision from the Slave!

  
  
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  Young People Ask: Why Distribute WT Literature?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "so the visible congregation of god's people has $omething to do with the provision of salvation today.

  indeed, it has an important place in that provision.

  - watchtower 1967 aug 15 p.499.

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  Sea Breeze

  Picture #2 does actually show what the Big A Survivors are going to get themselves into.

  Definitely one interpretation. When I posted it, I imagined the image as an accurate representation of JW's digging their own graves, in this life.... Working for your salvation is such a foreign concept to the NT and much of Christianity:

  Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describes the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputes righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. - Romans 4: 4

  JW's live with a different rule in mind:

  "It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision." Watchtower 1957 Jun 15 p.370

  In other words, "Dig those graves you good for nothing slaves"...
  
  JW's: "What a privilege to work for the "Slave"... probably we may be concealed in the day of Jehovah's wrath.

  
  

  
  
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  Did becoming a JW influence you to give up something you enjoyed ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was a teenager a younger fellow workmate was involved in the sport of judo.i got interested and went along to a number of sessions and took to it like a sponge to water ,and as a sport i was happy participating in.. not that much longer another workmate was getting re-activated in the religion of jw`s.

  which i had never heard o before and then got interested in that .. conflict : was judo a sport that was compatible with j.w beliefs?

  sadly i decided it was not and stopped any further involvement.. to this day i resent that decision i made back then .and i`m 82 years old now.. it was a sport i was comfortable doing and i enjoyed it.and i gave it up because of the religion .who knows what i may have achieved had i continued with it.

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  Sea Breeze

  Yes! I had to avoid aluminum frying pans, sleeping on my left side, & inoculations. Chewing gum was to be avoided like the plague.
  
  

  *** The Golden Age, Nov. 12, 1929, p. 107 ***

  If the organs [of your body] are diseased, heal them by correcting your diet. Avoid the use of aluminum cooking utensils and alum baking powders as they are injurious to your health, poisoning your blood stream... Sleep on the right side or flat on your back, with the head toward the north so as to get benefit of the earth's magnetic currents. Avoid serum inoculations as they pollute the blood stream with their filthy pus.... Stop chewing gum, as you need the saliva for your food.
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  Did Jesus have a Y chromosome?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  even in jesus’s day, humans had chromosomes.

  and so did jesus —because he was human.

  so let’s say jesus took a dna test, his mitochondrial dna would go back to eve but interestingly jc also would inherit dna from sinful adam on his mother’s side because his mother mary passed on to jc dna from both adam and eve.

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  Sea Breeze

  Actually a small section of the Y chromosome undergoes recombination with the X during meiosis, allowing for some of that paternal Y chromosome DNA to get transferred to an X chromosome that might ultimately end up inherited by a daughter.